RDS vs Irons

[ReservoirDawg10]

You just made an excellent argument for having an RMR.

The only downside you mention it the possibility of it failing, but the probability of it giving you an edge that saves your life (faster and more shots on target) is way higher than the probability of an RMR failing. Not to mention an RMR failing doesn't mean you can't still aim and shoot.

Yeah. The anti RDS people do nothing but make arguments to the contrary. While forgetung that they have other guns with force multipliers that simply aren't as recent.

 

[Fatal_Bert]

Yeah. The anti RDS people do nothing but make arguments to the contrary. While forge/ing that they have other guns with force multipliers that simply aren't as recent.

Yeah, gotta love the argument about how high stress a shooting situation is while simultaneously arguing a red dot that's super easy to use and makes fast and accurate shots with both eyes open is a bad thing.

Also failing to realize you can still have your iron sights at the same time so there's no real downside.

 

[medium187mph]

I can’t be the only one with the annoying eye stigmatisim…

I’ve ran the Trijicon RMR before they offered factory optic cuts on all these pistols. Unfortunately the last 3 years or so my eyes are picking up a buckshot pattern on the single dots but not too bad with the circle dot.

Honestly I shoot better with irons on paper but when it gets a little darker, RDO is THE WAY!

 

[Ken Ford]

Yes it does cowitness. Not absolute, but lower 1/3. And I haven't posted a pic of a gun in this thread.

And many guns now come with "suppressor Height" sights so as to be cowitnessed.

And plastic? Only my glock sights are plastic. Optics? Metal.

Apologies, I went back and looked at the wrong gun. Grandaughter is a mess to day and needs extra comfort, attention and demanding most my time. Hell typing with a wild assed.screaming 15 month old in my arms. LOL

 

[Ken Ford]

Yeah. The anti RDS people do nothing but make arguments to the contrary. While forgetung that they have other guns with force multipliers that simply aren't as recent.

I’m not anti at all, for fast competition I can see the need.

Just not on a gun that may see any plethora of unforseable problems that show up when the chips are down.

My favorite is the metal trijicon with the front fiber optic “co witnessed” sights

And “co witnessed” is when, with out making changes to your site picture by either by moving your head, eyes or hand you can see the dot and the irons pointing at the same spot.

 

[ReservoirDawg10]

I’m not anti at all, for fast competition I can see the need.

Just not on a gun that may see any plethora of unforseable problems that show up when the chips are down.

My favorite is the metal trijicon with the front fiber optic “co witnessed” sights

And “co witnessed” is when, with out making changes to your site picture by either by moving your head, eyes or hand you can see the dot and the irons pointing at the same spot.

You are making up terms. You defined absolute co-witness and pretend that's the only option. There are arguments for absolute, there are also arguments for lower 1/3rd. Neither are necessarily "wrong."

And once again, the benefits of a rds are more than well documented. Over, and over, and over. Proven by professionals, new shooters, competitive shooters, police, military, those that train, those don't train. Just like a rds on an ar. Or scope on a hunting rifle.

You have to be overly stubborn with head shoved up nether regions to not see the the practical application and benefits. And just like with anything else, quality matters. As well as the firearm itself. As well as the ammo. As well as the shooter. As well as the training. Everything creates a system. Make the system as effective as possible. It's really not a difficult concept or practice.

 

[lostchild]

Well, there's always this....

New sightless 45acp pics

This is the new 45 parts gun I had built for training in the Quick Kill pointshooting [ no sights ] classes I put on around the country. The duracoat was applied by AzEx of Mesa, Az and the gunsmith who threw it together, and gave it a reliability package was Nelson Ford out of N. Phoenix, Az...

www.shootersforum.com

 

[Bypass]

Yeah. The anti RDS people do nothing but make arguments to the contrary. While forgetung that they have other guns with force multipliers that simply aren't as recent.

Force multiplier..............

 

[Bypass]

Well, there's always this....

New sightless 45acp pics

This is the new 45 parts gun I had built for training in the Quick Kill pointshooting [ no sights ] classes I put on around the country. The duracoat was applied by AzEx of Mesa, Az and the gunsmith who threw it together, and gave it a reliability package was Nelson Ford out of N. Phoenix, Az...

www.shootersforum.com

Where we're going we don't need sights.

 

[lostchild]

When I purchased my old 1911 years ago, it had lost its front sight. Ran it that way for years 'til I had a little tune-up work done on it. No one ever seemed to notice.