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The Monos Are Moving to Denver

Probably by September....

About three weeks ago my Director, who lives in Massachusets and my Manager, who lives in Louisiana decided to make a surprise unannounced visit to Atlanta to have a mandatory meeting with the 5 remaining members of the Atlanta Team.....we got like 12 hours notice.

Those kind of visits are never good, right?

So I went in on my day off expecting to be RIF'd....what they told us was only a little bit better. Started out telling us the Atlanta Ops Team was being shuttered but they value us as critical employees, YaDa YaDa Yada (insert more platitudes here). My heart skipped a few beats but it wasn't really a surprise. The writing has been on the wall since my current employer bought our company and even though management had said time and again that Atlanta would always be a core location for Ops, it was clear that the business model would not support three core locations. Corporate lackeys lie all the time..... So between the three core locations it was inevitable that one would be shuttered. Then they gave the five of us three options.

  1. Find a position inside my current employer in the Atlanta office on another team (there are only 2 jobs listed here, sales or customer service, and I would not be happy doing either)
  2. Take a relocation package and choose to remain on the team but move to either one of the other two core locations.....either a swamp in Louisiana or to Denver 1500 miles away from family. The relo package includes a paltry sum to move...
  3. Accept the standard RIF package which for me would be 30 weeks pay (based on my 15 years time in title) and a hearty pat on the back for a job well done (here's the door, don't let it hit ya on the way out).

Last week my current employer paid for us to go and check out Denver. Well they covered the hotel and rental car for the week, we had to spring for air fare. We liked it but housing is CRAZY expensive out there. Mrs. Monos and I discussed checking out the Louisiana swamps as an alternative but aside from my current employer there is no other supporting industry for me to fall back on should they still choose to RIF me down the line. Denver, at least, has many employment options other than my current employer. We decided the Louisiana swamps were out as an option.

We have to make our decision final on July 11th so unless a miracle happens in the next few days, it looks like the Monos clan will probably be moving to Denver at the end of August or shortly thereafter.

This kinda sux BUT it could also be really good. I mentioned that there are only 2 job listings for the Atlanta office....well as of this posting there are 187 job listings in Denver for various groups within my current employer so the potential for eventually changing departments or moving up to an engineering role is greatly enhanced out there. There are two offices to choose to work from. One is in the north and one is in the south of Denver. In the last week we drove around 500 miles checking out Denver proper and the surrounding suburbs near those offices, with a side trip to Colorado Springs on the fourth to relax, decompress, see Pikes Peak and be tourists. I think we will choose the southern area but we can't be sure until we sell our condo here and see what is on the market out there. That writing on the wall I was talking about earlier told us to go ahead and sell our rental property in Paulding County in April so we got ahead of that one.

Mrs. Monos will be moving away from her parents just as her Father starts dealing with early onset Alzheimer's and well,,,,My Mom turns 90 this year and is no spring chicken herself. She's slowing down, and my brother is no real support mechanism for her. Southern boys and their Mama's, this is not an ideal solution...I will worry about her, and she will not even consider moving.

Cheers! It could be worse, right???


Good luck with the move. I lived in Laramie Wyoming in 1980 and frequently went to Colorado for fun. Beautiful, breathtaking, country with lot's to offer for anyone into the outdoors.
 
Probably by September....

About three weeks ago my Director, who lives in Massachusets and my Manager, who lives in Louisiana decided to make a surprise unannounced visit to Atlanta to have a mandatory meeting with the 5 remaining members of the Atlanta Team.....we got like 12 hours notice.

Those kind of visits are never good, right?

So I went in on my day off expecting to be RIF'd....what they told us was only a little bit better. Started out telling us the Atlanta Ops Team was being shuttered but they value us as critical employees, YaDa YaDa Yada (insert more platitudes here). My heart skipped a few beats but it wasn't really a surprise. The writing has been on the wall since my current employer bought our company and even though management had said time and again that Atlanta would always be a core location for Ops, it was clear that the business model would not support three core locations. Corporate lackeys lie all the time..... So between the three core locations it was inevitable that one would be shuttered. Then they gave the five of us three options.

  1. Find a position inside my current employer in the Atlanta office on another team (there are only 2 jobs listed here, sales or customer service, and I would not be happy doing either)
  2. Take a relocation package and choose to remain on the team but move to either one of the other two core locations.....either a swamp in Louisiana or to Denver 1500 miles away from family. The relo package includes a paltry sum to move...
  3. Accept the standard RIF package which for me would be 30 weeks pay (based on my 15 years time in title) and a hearty pat on the back for a job well done (here's the door, don't let it hit ya on the way out).

Last week my current employer paid for us to go and check out Denver. Well they covered the hotel and rental car for the week, we had to spring for air fare. We liked it but housing is CRAZY expensive out there. Mrs. Monos and I discussed checking out the Louisiana swamps as an alternative but aside from my current employer there is no other supporting industry for me to fall back on should they still choose to RIF me down the line. Denver, at least, has many employment options other than my current employer. We decided the Louisiana swamps were out as an option.

We have to make our decision final on July 11th so unless a miracle happens in the next few days, it looks like the Monos clan will probably be moving to Denver at the end of August or shortly thereafter.

This kinda sux BUT it could also be really good. I mentioned that there are only 2 job listings for the Atlanta office....well as of this posting there are 187 job listings in Denver for various groups within my current employer so the potential for eventually changing departments or moving up to an engineering role is greatly enhanced out there. There are two offices to choose to work from. One is in the north and one is in the south of Denver. In the last week we drove around 500 miles checking out Denver proper and the surrounding suburbs near those offices, with a side trip to Colorado Springs on the fourth to relax, decompress, see Pikes Peak and be tourists. I think we will choose the southern area but we can't be sure until we sell our condo here and see what is on the market out there. That writing on the wall I was talking about earlier told us to go ahead and sell our rental property in Paulding County in April so we got ahead of that one.

Mrs. Monos will be moving away from her parents just as her Father starts dealing with early onset Alzheimer's and well,,,,My Mom turns 90 this year and is no spring chicken herself. She's slowing down, and my brother is no real support mechanism for her. Southern boys and their Mama's, this is not an ideal solution...I will worry about her, and she will not even consider moving.

Cheers! It could be worse, right???

I used to travel to Denver 3-4x a month in my old job. I liked it in the beginning then the LOSERS from New England started moving there in Droves, it changed, but still not a bad place. Good Luck!
 
I would take the severance or be a cajun if I had no choice, but good luck either way. There should be some good hunting out there, and lots of public land.
 
No, don't think it is this guy. The shop was somewhere in Denver area or close to - maybe Centennial or Aurora?

You're not talking about Mel "Dragonman" Bernstein are you?

He's a total nutter, fraud, thief, and is not well thought of around here at all.

FWIW, his wife was killed by an explosion at the range during filming of a reality show based on that ****show... Never aired.

Or maybe you're talking about someone else, so ...nevermind.
 
You're not talking about Mel "Dragonman" Bernstein are you?

He's a total nutter, fraud, thief, and is not well thought of around here at all.

FWIW, his wife was killed by an explosion at the range during filming of a reality show based on that ****show... Never aired.

Or maybe you're talking about someone else, so ...nevermind.
Had to look him up. Can't say this quote gave the best impression.
"Whatever the killer used, that’s what they want,” Bernstein, 71, said of his customers. “They want to feel the firepower. They want to have the gun just like that to show people.”

His wife was killed by a smoke bomb????
 
You're ecstatic to be in MACON? WOW Colo must be a real ****hole....

I'm outside of Macon, but yes. I still go out to Colorado often as my office is out there. I miss it for about a day then I am over it.

It's the stuff I mentioned before (taxes, cost of living etc) The granola hippies, the general rudeness of people. My kids would say please, thank you and hold doors for people out there and they would just be amazed because nobody does it. Not that there aren't good people but the knuckle heads out number them by far.

I still see more homeless out there then I do even in Macon. More people begging on every corner for money. The pot has been a very Bad thing for Colorado IMO. While it is making money for someone (who I don't know because I don't see it going back to the economy) in general I think it's been a bad move for the state.

It was going to be out "forever" home but it got so bad (and getting worse) we packed up our 3 young kids, sold our properties and moved here. The Macon area was not our first choice but we needed to be near Robins AFB for work and wanted land so that's what drove that.

Obviously a lot of people are okay with things out there, as one who likes his freedoms (as much as one can these days) it was Not a place for us. The stupidity being forced on the people from the left out there is just too much anymore.

And if that isn't enough, I was out there a couple weeks ago and it snowed so there's that Lol..

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Doesn't sound like you are in upper management if you have a Manager and a Director above you. I would seriously consider taking the 30 weeks and finding something else here. Denver living on $100k is barely making it, Atlanta you can do it well on $80k.

Let me know when you decide to sell all your "high capacity" mags and evil black rifles.


Less than 4% employment, in classic economics that is "full employment", meaning should be some good job opportunities.

I would more critically examine the 30 weeks severance, but get a clear understanding of COBRA.
 
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