Many years ago, I went to a gun show with a good friend. He picked up an off brand 22 revolver for $60-65 new. He is an excellent shooter and I'm not too bad either, but neither one of us could hit a Coke can from 10 feet with that gun. I think we finally got it from the 5 foot mark and put it away. I wish I could recall the brand to tell everyone to stay away from it.