Honestly, I don't blame you considering the two pistols you named. I do typically shoot mine prior to carry BUT I seldom clean them (the Glocks at least) unless they've been shot a lot.I seriously haven't fired my gen2 19 or my mk 23. The last gun I fired was a Zenith mp5 to function test to see if it was worth SBRing. No joke bro. Really not stirring the pot this time.