America does not have operational control of the border/ AZ desert/ TREASON.

[Targetmaster]

 

[10thmountain]

Illegal Aliens don't have the same rights as citizens therefore the 14th does not apply to them. They are here ILLEGALLY. ILLEGALLY ILLEGALLY.
Breaking the law. PERIOD. Show me where it says ILLEGALS get anything. I would take that to the supreme court. Probably win. Probably become President.

 

[JamesG]

We aren't talking about the illegal alien mother. We are talking about the new person that pops out of her on American soil. The 14 Amendment says it is a US Citizen. Period. Effectively always has been since the days of Jamestown, the 14 Amendment just codified it and kept the South (Racists! Democrats!) from twisting any lesser law into depriving any group from that right (blacks originally, now children born to illegals).

Sorry but those are the rules of the game. You want to fix it, stop/dissuade the prego madres from getting to US territory.

That's not how it was interpreted before the end of 20th century. The original Amd covered freed slaves.

Doesn't matter. And IIRC, it was also applied to the tens of thousands of Irish that came over to American specifically to fight for the Union Army.

 

[Jeddak]

You should be doing this also, if you are not.

Is also a way to shield your savings from "haircuts", ala Greece and Cyprus.

 

[10thmountain]

I will cite this...If you are a FRENCHWOMAN here on Vacation and you deliver a baby Frog, said frog is not a citizen.

 

[GeauxLSU]

All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.

You bolded exactly the wrong words. The UNBOLDED words are what are up for interpretation and being disputed despite any USSC ruling to the contrary.
The intent of the amendment was clear and it was clear it did NOT include the children of invaders.

 

[JamesG]

That is your (desperate) interpretation. The unbolded portion just codifies that they cannot be denied any other legal protections or State citizenship. Nice try though.

 

[GeauxLSU]

That is your (desperate) interpretation. The unbolded portion just codifies that they cannot be denied any other legal protections or State citizenship. Nice try though.

Well I guess if you say so.

 

[chucklenut]

That is your (desperate) interpretation. The unbolded portion just codifies that they cannot be denied any other legal protections or State citizenship. Nice try though.

Until scotus reinterprets it........again

What is the definition of is?

 

[karlvv30]

Until scotus reinterprets it........again

What is the definition of is?

Well that all depends on the definition of definition.