Firearms Buying and Selling, GET A BILL OF SALE! - Police now have my/sold firearm.

[BEREZKA]

"why yes here is my doccumnetation proving i sold the something to a prohibited person"

 

[madmarinehays]

I sold quite a few firearms here, and met / traded in parking lots etc, just like everyone else does. I normally didnt require a bill of sale, and just a peak at DL and/or Gun Permit was fine.

Friday, I received a certified letter from a GA police dept, saying they have in their possession one of my firearms. Based on the model / cal etc, I was able to identify it as one that I've sold here to another ODT member back in 2017. The PD states that this firearm was found on the side of the road, and they want me to come down to the evidence room to retrieve it.

I highly recommend you guys start getting a Bill of Sale, if someone does something stupid with it, (like they did mine) you have some proof you no longer have possession of it as of said date.

Unless I reported it stolen I would not go pick it up. No guarantee you walking in there, you get to walk out. They put you in a room you better have a good lawyer on speed dial.

Sorry this happened.

 

[Gaffer1968]

Somebody post the video…..

It's a stupid meme video....

 

[poopdaddy]

I am thinking if I had a Bill of Sale, where both parties have a signature with a date, I could use this for the police dept to track where it had gone after I had it. Had something criminal been used with it, I can say I "go after this guy".

nope
1 i dont like BOS. but if you need one and its something i want enough to do one....
this is what you get
my name.
the last 4 of my carry permit. if you dont have a permit i get the last 4 of you dl number.
thats it.
anymore is pointless. you dont need my address or my full number. if something comes up,the cops can find the seller or buyer,but you cant find my house and i cant find yours...

 

[karlvv30]

I sold quite a few firearms here, and met / traded in parking lots etc, just like everyone else does. I normally didnt require a bill of sale, and just a peak at DL and/or Gun Permit was fine.

Friday, I received a certified letter from a GA police dept, saying they have in their possession one of my firearms. Based on the model / cal etc, I was able to identify it as one that I've sold here to another ODT member back in 2017. The PD states that this firearm was found on the side of the road, and they want me to come down to the evidence room to retrieve it.

I highly recommend you guys start getting a Bill of Sale, if someone does something stupid with it, (like they did mine) you have some proof you no longer have possession of it as of said date.

They want you to come pick up property that doesn't belong to you? I wouldn't knowingly go into a police station and take possession of property that I knew wasn't mine.

 

[Gaffer1968]

This never happens to me. You sold the gun, then got it back? So you can sell it again or essentially own it for free. Buy a lottery ticket.


Forget the BOS, how did they know you were the original owner?? 4473's are "supposed" to be for background checks only, not for database retention of ownership...

No. A Form 4473 can legally be used to get information when a gun is retrieved by LE that has been used in a crime or retrieved under otherwise abnormal circumstances. The procedure is the LE gets the S/N, contacts the manufacturer, the manufacturer tells which supplier sold the gun, and to whom if there is a warrant - Then there is also the case when the seller (keeper of the Form 4473) will voluntarily give up the information to LE.

In this case, it isn't a 'database' situation - there is a process. But I am not stupid and there's a high probability that the FEDS have been compiling illegal databases for years.

 

[Gaffer1968]

nope
1 i dont like BOS. but if you need one and its something i want enough to do one....
this is what you get
my name.
the last 4 of my carry permit. if you dont have a permit i get the last 4 of you dl number.
thats it.
anymore is pointless. you dont need my address or my full number. if something comes up,the cops can find the seller or buyer,but you cant find my house and i cant find yours...

I wouldn't have a problem with that...

 

[Kahrnut]

It protects you

 

[lostchild]

beware the POPO

Unless I reported it stolen I would not go pick it up. No guarantee you walking in there, you get to walk out. They put you in a room you better have a good lawyer on speed dial.

Sorry this happened.

Sounds like a fishing expedition.
My answer would be, ‘no, I sold that on (date), but thanks for the call’.
No way I’d walk my honky azz in there.

edit: just reread the OP, saw it was a letter, not a call. I’d probably call the phone # on there and tell them it had been sold and date to prevent possible embarrassing follow-up visit.

 

[Glorfindel]

Hold up. So the police said something you sold is still yours? Sounds problematic