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Huh funny that ...Years ago,one of the major hunting magazines took a poll of Alaska guides and asked the same question."If I can only buy ONE gun to hunt all big game in Alaska,what should I buy"? #1 gun recommended was the 30.06,# 2 was the .270.
Stay away from the magnums. The 3006 does have more kick than the 270 but it's not going to be as sharp. A good recoil pad can be bought and installed for about $80. They're worth every dime and they hit two birds, recoil and a cheap way of custom fitting the rifle to your shoulder.Thanks to everyone for then postings. Admittedly I am fairly new to the bolt guns, and the .270 and I came together on a trade. I have had several range sessions and am holding consistent 1" and below groups. The unfortunate part of that is after about 10 rounds I'm done, I don't even want to think about shooting it again. I'm shooting the hornady SST 130's kicking 3200fps.. I have purchased some win 150 power points to play with and see how they run.
I am concerned more with recoil on a crap shoulder with the big magnums.. Thoughts?
I have the defensive side handled by my faithful sidearm.. So no worries there..
Years ago,one of the major hunting magazines took a poll of Alaska guides and asked the same question."If I can only buy ONE gun to hunt all big game in Alaska,what should I buy"? #1 gun recommended was the 30.06,# 2 was the .270.
A lot of y'all know hunting, but apparently not dangerous game hunting. A .270 will certainly kill a big bear/lion/leopard/buffalo, but may not stop or turn it in a life-or-death situation. For Alaska, that would start with .338 or .375 H&H. And .45/70 heavilly loaded, and the .416s/.458s. You can get more shots off in a hurry with a lever-gun...
The idea being that in a hurry you may not make a perfect shot, and the more margin for error you have, the more likely you are to get it to break off the attack. The guides tell me no one ever survives a charge and wishes they had had a smaller gun. I haven't been there, so this is just hearsay. .
338 or .375 is probably the most versatile. Properly loaded they still have some range which the 40s don't have, and have the penetration on big-boned animals that the .30 mags don't have.
There is a floor for dangerous game hunting in a lot of African countries, and that floor is .375 H&H equivalent or bigger. .338 doesn't make the cut, legally, though new bullet designs should probably get them to rethink the floor.
I'd use the premium-est bullet I could get, regardless of caliber. Barnes, Swift A-Frame, NorthFork, Trophy Bonded, etc. In the heaviest weight possible with typical twist rates. That's 150 for .270, 160/168 for 7mm, 200+ for .30 cal, 250+ for .338, and 300+ for .375 H&H. 400 for the .416s and 500 for the .458s just to cover 'em all. I personally don't like the .338 Win-Mag. I think the case capacity is too small to get the heavy bullets up to sufficient speed for long shots, and if you aren't going to use it for long shots, get the .375 H&H and be done with it. Lots of others disagree, unsurprisingly.
I'd probably get a stainless/synthetic short barreled Marlin .45/70 with the glove loop and ghost-ring sights if I needed bear defense. Loaded with full-power handloads or Buffalo Bore Hammerheads. This isn't the ideal hunting rifle though; range is very limited. But it can sling a lot of lead fast, and shoot nose to tail through a brownie.
A big "negatory" on the 12-gauge penetration with slugs. Sure it's a 1-oz. slug-- same as the .45-70. But it's .70 caliber to start with, not .45. Penetration is dramatically less. Feet less. Somebody from Alaska may can chime in if it's "good enough". That I don't know, but the penetration is definitely less. Now if you have a rifled barrel and .45 caliber saboted slugs, my objection falls. That'll penetrate right with the .45-70. In fact, a short-barreled 5-shot pump shotgun shooting saboted slugs would be my second choice.
Yeah, I don't get it either, a 44 mag is considered a bear stopper but .270 is not?....I would much rather use any .270 bolt rifle against a bear than any handgun.