I carried a Taurus Raging Bull 8", 454 casull for a couple of years in a shoulder rig. That is when the weather was cool enough for a jacket. As far I know no body ever noticed it as far as I could tell. I had a GSP friend and his wife looking at it one day where I was working and she asked him what would his vest do for the 454 if anyone ever pulled one on him. He replied it would be over for me if it got off the first round. Scary for those guys that are out there patrolling every day if you think about it. They don't know what they are going up against every time they make a traffic stop.