Thanks for the info....looking to switch some things around....
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you mean pissing match?
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I'll put my chihuahua against your bobcat any day! He's a mean sum-b*tch!
As I said, some HIGH POWER pistol calibers can perform similar to rifles.
But I wasn't talking about them, remember?
You said yourself these were not the rounds I was talking about, so why bring them up & say I was wrong?
( That sounds more mean spirited than I meant it, by the way.)
We are talking about standard self-defense loads, not hot .357 & .44 magnum loads. Totally different animals & comparing apples & oranges.
Actually, hot .44 magnum's in many documented accounts turned out not to perform very well in shootings of humans because... SURPRISE... that's not what they were designed for. While I doubt they did anything to improve the person who was shot's disposition, the bullets went straight through without opening up creating a very narrow wound channel.
This caused Cor-Bon to design & produce a lower velocity .44 mag. designed to expand & not exit a human torso.
My apologies, sir. I happened to miss that particular statement. So I do apologize for reprising something you had already touched on.
And as far as .44 Mag rounds...I have read the same data you are citing - full-house .44's make a LOUSY defense round for the very reasons you stated. A person would most likely kill some in the next room as easily as the person standing right in front of them posing a threat. I'm sure a hot .357 will do the same thing when stuffed with the wrong bullet. But with a bullet designed to expand rapidly...it can (and will) do an impressive amount of internal damage without blowing through the target.
Again...sorry...resume the 9/40/45 debate. I forgot...only calibers that readily exist in semi-auto form need apply to any self-defense scenario since revolvers are woefully inadequate in these situations (Monte...this last statement if not aimed at you or any other particular person...just seems to be the general consensus of everyone involved in this entire thread).
While there has been disagreement, there's been good information and multiple points of view shared and discussed. What are you looking for? I carry this round and that's it? Nobody learns from that kind of information. Gaining an understanding of why goes a lot farther than x number of people carry a certain round because I read it on the internet.
whole thread turned into a physics lesson. way off from what was asked of the op.