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I agree. Cheap surplus ammo is the only advantage to an American shooter in 54R.With numbers like this I don't see the infatuation with the 7.62R. I think it's cool that it's been hanging around since 1891, I really do, but the 7.62x51mm/.308 is a better cartridge all-around.
The US wins again!I agree. Cheap surplus ammo is the only advantage to an American shooter in 54R.
For Russians? Existing tooling. But that makes belt fed MG much more complicated, due to the rim.
And M14 is a cat's meow in DMR role.
The US wins again!
Not a problem.Only if our new president changes our ROE to mirror Russian ROE, and stops holding back our military.
If the rifle ain't a solid 1MOA or better system, it shouldn't be labeled a "Sniper rifle".
Really? 1 MOA or it ain't a sniper rifle?
The average law enforcement SWAT sniper only engages targets within 100 yards.
The average is 51 yards.
Only 5% of all police "sniper" work requires a shot beyond 100 yards, and the longest documented police sniper shot in recent history was 187 yards.
http://www.hendonpub.com/resources/article_archive/results/details?id=3879
I'd be fine with 2" at 100 yards, or 4" at 200 yards, and that would be my maximum "head shot" or "hostage rescue" shot range. For armed adversaries who are exposing their torsos, and who aren't clutching innocent victims next to them, a 2 m.o.a. rifle ought to be lethal for one-shot-stops out to 400 yards (8" group, centered over the bad guy's chest, should put him down with any shot within that circle).
For police and "homeland defense" sniping in urban and suburban areas, then, I think that a 2 m.o.a. rifle is perfectly suitable as a "sniper rifle" if used as such by a person trained as a sniper / countersniper.
https://www.policeone.com/police-pr...ISS-ballistics-for-police-precision-riflemen/
Now for military use, and particularly the USA's fine military, with its high standards... sure.
Reserve the term "sniper rifle" only for guns that can keep 8" groups out to 800 yards, and take out bad guys from one hilltop to another, across the entire valley.
I don't completely agree with this, but you make a hell of a good point about the work and training a person goes through to carry the title of "Sniper". It's a lot more than just being able to put rounds on target.Hell for that matter the label "sniper rifle" should only apply when there is a sniper who owns the rifle and is behind it. I am a firm believer in there are zero civilian(that have never been military) snipers. Snipers put to much blood sweat & tears into sniper training, to just be able to toss out that term, even if it is just at a rifle. I kind of feel like its micro stolen valor to me. But I am weird that way.