Ford Truck Engines

[Trailrider]

I guess I'll throw my .02 in as a life long Ford truck owner. I've owned 2 F150 5.4 Tritons( 2005, 2010) an 06 6.0 Powerstroke, and now a 2013 3.5 Ecoboost. I test drove the 5.0 Coyote before I bought the Eco. I absolutely love my 2013. I have just under 100k trouble free miles. I've had to change plugs and a water pump so far, and of course the usual stuff like battery. Other than that no issues, no turbo problems or anything like that. The key is taking care of them and routine maintenance which on the Ecoboost involves more frequent plug changes than the standard 100k miles. I beat the crap out of my truck too, no grandpa driving it here.

First off to those who keeps saying no replacement for displacement. That's some old school thinking that doesn't apply especially to turbocharged engines. My 3.5 has some serious torque. It's ridiculous. Pulling a trailer is cake compared to both my old 5.4 Tritons. It beats that motor hands down and spanks it off the line and in gas mileage as well.

However, what others have said, the 3.5 Ecoboosts are misleading on gas mileage compared to the new 5.0 Coyote motors. I get the same mileage as my buddy with an identical optioned truck with the 5.0.

I wouldn't hesitate to buy either the 5.0 or 3.5 Eco. Not sure about the new diesel yet as others have said as it may need more time to see any issues in reliability. I will say this though, the only truck I've had more fun driving than my Ecoboost was the old 6.0 PSD but that thing was tuned and bulletproofed. There is just something about those sweet turbos...

 

[NWSharpshooter]

I am liking mine. I just hope the gas mileage improves!!!

I am too. I am getting about 18.5 avg mpg.

The 3.5 ecoboost I had on loan for a weekend gave me 23.

That said the mileage when towing with the ecoboost was abismal. Towing a 7500 lb trailer was getting around 6 or 7 mpg and instant mileage when pulling a hill was 1 or 2 mpg.

Don’t get me wrong, the ecoboost reminded me of towing with my 6.7 l Powerstroke. It was effortless.

With my 5.0 with the same trailer my towing mpg is around 10. That said it is taking some getting used to having the truck downshift and run 4K rpm when going up a hill. I certainly feel the trailer weight much more with the coyote.

 

[gh1950]

First off to those who keeps saying no replacement for displacement. That's some old school thinking that doesn't apply especially to turbocharged engines. My 3.5 has some serious torque. It's ridiculous. Pulling a trailer is cake compared to both my old 5.4 Tritons. It beats that motor hands down and spanks it off the line and in gas mileage as well.
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In the HP sense you are correct. But for the person seeking to keep a vehicle a long time, there is no denying that over 200,000 miles, the parts in a 6 cylinder have done more work and have more wear than an 8 cylinder, and the parts in a large displacement 8 cylinder will have less wear than those in a smaller displacement 8 cylinder engine.

All of the rings, pistons, connecting rods, valves, bearings, crankshafts, camshafts, and such are made out of the same thing, and more RPM = more wear.

Short term the Eco-boost may match the HP of a V-8, but let's see what all that extra boost does the valves and rings and journals and bearings in 200,000 miles.

 

[NWSharpshooter]

In the HP sense you are correct. But for the person seeking to keep a vehicle a long time, there is no denying that over 200,000 miles, the parts in a 6 cylinder have done more work and have more wear than an 8 cylinder, and the parts in a large displacement 8 cylinder will have less wear than those in a smaller displacement 8 cylinder engine.

All of the rings, pistons, connecting rods, valves, bearings, crankshafts, camshafts, and such are made out of the same thing, and more RPM = more wear.

Short term the Eco-boost may match the HP of a V-8, but let's see what all that extra boost does the valves and rings and journals and bearings in 200,000 miles.

There are several ecoboost engines over 300k on the F-150 forum. They are used as hot shots and pull heavy loads every day.

The ecoboost 3.5 has proven itself as a great engine and as a workhorse.

 

[Smoothie]

Congrats on the new ride. Good engine choice too, the 5.0 is a cute motor.

 

[greg vess]

I guess I'll throw my .02 in as a life long Ford truck owner. I've owned 2 F150 5.4 Tritons( 2005, 2010) an 06 6.0 Powerstroke, and now a 2013 3.5 Ecoboost. I test drove the 5.0 Coyote before I bought the Eco. I absolutely love my 2013. I have just under 100k trouble free miles. I've had to change plugs and a water pump so far, and of course the usual stuff like battery. Other than that no issues, no turbo problems or anything like that. The key is taking care of them and routine maintenance which on the Ecoboost involves more frequent plug changes than the standard 100k miles. I beat the crap out of my truck too, no grandpa driving it here.

First off to those who keeps saying no replacement for displacement. That's some old school thinking that doesn't apply especially to turbocharged engines. My 3.5 has some serious torque. It's ridiculous. Pulling a trailer is cake compared to both my old 5.4 Tritons. It beats that motor hands down and spanks it off the line and in gas mileage as well.

However, what others have said, the 3.5 Ecoboosts are misleading on gas mileage compared to the new 5.0 Coyote motors. I get the same mileage as my buddy with an identical optioned truck with the 5.0.

I wouldn't hesitate to buy either the 5.0 or 3.5 Eco. Not sure about the new diesel yet as others have said as it may need more time to see any issues in reliability. I will say this though, the only truck I've had more fun driving than my Ecoboost was the old 6.0 PSD but that thing was tuned and bulletproofed. There is just something about those sweet turbos...

I haven't looked up the specs but I thought the coyote motor was a power house. At least that what I gathered watching the car shows on the weekend, Horsepower TV, Detroit power and the rest. That's all I can do at this point until I start my 408 stroker out of my 02 360 magnum. The only draw back out of my 02 360 magnum. Just not enough power and torque. For an everyday driver it's a great truck. With the trailer tow pac it has the 391 posi and all the cooling features for the transmission. Eagle has a nice forged bottom end stroker kit for the 360 I just have to get the block seasoned and bored .030 over. Seems the 02 with the Z engine code has stud mount rocker arms, dodge did use the hollow shaft mount rocker arms so I can use regular chevy roller rocker arms. Pretty simple deal. Monster has a nice 47RE transmission set up to hold the power so that's on the menu. My dad left me his truck when he died. He babied it. I sold him that truck back in 02. Graphite quad cab with the factory 20 inch wheels. I love this truck. I will love it more when I put a rumbling 408 in there. I am really not set on one manufacturer. I owned them all. This truck has 137,000 miles and still runs like a new one. I have replaced the plugs, wire, cap and rotor, battery. I just did some front end work and put a set of Bilsteins all the way around and it drives like Cadillac. If you want to totally transform the way your truck rides and handles put a set of Bilsteins on there.

 

[NWSharpshooter]

I haven't looked up the specs but I thought the coyote motor was a power house. At least that what I gathered watching the car shows on the weekend, Horsepower TV, Detroit power and the rest. That's all I can do at this point until I start my 408 stroker out of my 02 360 magnum. The only draw back out of my 02 360 magnum. Just not enough power and torque. For an everyday driver it's a great truck. With the trailer tow pac it has the 391 posi and all the cooling features for the transmission. Eagle has a nice forged bottom end stroker kit for the 360 I just have to get the block seasoned and bored .030 over. Seems the 02 with the Z engine code has stud mount rocker arms, dodge did use the hollow shaft mount rocker arms so I can use regular chevy roller rocker arms. Pretty simple deal. Monster has a nice 47RE transmission set up to hold the power so that's on the menu. My dad left me his truck when he died. He babied it. I sold him that truck back in 02. Graphite quad cab with the factory 20 inch wheels. I love this truck. I will love it more when I put a rumbling 408 in there. I am really not set on one manufacturer. I owned them all. This truck has 137,000 miles and still runs like a new one. I have replaced the plugs, wire, cap and rotor, battery. I just did some front end work and put a set of Bilsteins all the way around and it drives like Cadillac. If you want to totally transform the way your truck rides and handles put a set of Bilsteins on there.

The coyote is a power house but it doesn’t have the power of that twin turbo v6 3.5l ecoboost.

 

[greg vess]

The coyote is a power house but it doesn’t have the power of that twin turbo v6 3.5l ecoboost.

I knew the Eco boost was good set up but I didn't think it was all that. That Coyote motor is built to the hilt. Take two huffers and strap on that motor and lets put em the scales then.

 

[greg vess]

Hell just a belt driven super charger would put that Coyote motor into the stratosphere as far as torque and HP. It's a little unfair to compare a N/A motor to a twin turbo set up regardless of cubic inches.

 

[hseII]

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Screwcab 6.5’ bed, 4x4 with 3.73 elocker. 10600 lb tow capacity.

Hard to argue with that.


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