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AR style 9mm pistols - what to buy? Keltec Sub2000?
- Thread starter Plinker66
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Have any of yall messed around with 147 grain stuff our of the 16" keltec's? Are they sub's or supers?
I use the 147 grain with my can and they are very quiet. I have never tried them without the can.
It’s folding almost all the way with the sight mark red dot, all but the height of the red dot. I figure I’m gonna leave it like that. I like the sight picture and I don’t need it to fold all the way. Shucks it’s only 31” unfolded.
Congrats on the sub-2000 that uses the Glock 9mm mags!
As to the OP and the subsequent debate about what platform of weapon is good for a tiny person who isn't an experienced shooter:
I don't think an AR / AK / M1 Carbine type "pistol" is a good choice for plinking.
Something with a shoulder stock (or an arm brace that ATF would allow her to use as a shoulder stock!) would be a lot better.
Even for home defense, being able to tuck a stock up under your arm against your ribs really does aid in pointing and recoil control (9mm AR's have more recoil the the .223 versions, but a lot less muzzle blast, and I agree that 9mm is the better choice here).
So... I'd suggest looking at an AR 9mm carbine but with a 14.5" barrel and a permanently-pinned or welded flash suppressor.
An even better choice would be an AR carbine, 9mm, with a 9" barrel and a 7" long fake suppressor welded / pinned on the end. That way, you get total flash elimination, a really intimidating look from the front end (that muzzle accessory will have a .50 caliber hole at the end), some extra weight to tame recoil, and still just barely enough "barrel length" to keep the weapon out of the NFA registration and tax territory.
The 9" rifled section of the barrel will still be plenty to both stabilze and boost the velocity of the 9mm bullets over a typical handgun barrel length of 4.5" to 5.5 inches.
P.S. People tend to perform best with the guns they shoot a lot. People tend to shoot the guns more that are fun to shoot. Ergonomic and comfortable, and accurate enough to give them a feeling of accomplishment at the range. Carbines with shoulder stocks are easier to shoot tight groups with.
Tight groups shot during rapid fire is fun.
Fun = the gun's owner gets more trigger time on the weapon and gets to know it intimately.
Intimate familiarity with your weapon makes you fast and deadly with it when the chips are down.
As to the OP and the subsequent debate about what platform of weapon is good for a tiny person who isn't an experienced shooter:
I don't think an AR / AK / M1 Carbine type "pistol" is a good choice for plinking.
Something with a shoulder stock (or an arm brace that ATF would allow her to use as a shoulder stock!) would be a lot better.
Even for home defense, being able to tuck a stock up under your arm against your ribs really does aid in pointing and recoil control (9mm AR's have more recoil the the .223 versions, but a lot less muzzle blast, and I agree that 9mm is the better choice here).
So... I'd suggest looking at an AR 9mm carbine but with a 14.5" barrel and a permanently-pinned or welded flash suppressor.
An even better choice would be an AR carbine, 9mm, with a 9" barrel and a 7" long fake suppressor welded / pinned on the end. That way, you get total flash elimination, a really intimidating look from the front end (that muzzle accessory will have a .50 caliber hole at the end), some extra weight to tame recoil, and still just barely enough "barrel length" to keep the weapon out of the NFA registration and tax territory.
The 9" rifled section of the barrel will still be plenty to both stabilze and boost the velocity of the 9mm bullets over a typical handgun barrel length of 4.5" to 5.5 inches.
P.S. People tend to perform best with the guns they shoot a lot. People tend to shoot the guns more that are fun to shoot. Ergonomic and comfortable, and accurate enough to give them a feeling of accomplishment at the range. Carbines with shoulder stocks are easier to shoot tight groups with.
Tight groups shot during rapid fire is fun.
Fun = the gun's owner gets more trigger time on the weapon and gets to know it intimately.
Intimate familiarity with your weapon makes you fast and deadly with it when the chips are down.
