I thought people who rode Harley's did it just because they wanted attention.....sounds like you got what you wanted and then some!
So youre just extremely ignorant then?
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I thought people who rode Harley's did it just because they wanted attention.....sounds like you got what you wanted and then some!
Really like how you judge people kinda ****ed up there.I thought people who rode Harley's did it just because they wanted attention.....sounds like you got what you wanted and then some!
The only issue I have with this is the officer reaching and taking your weapon. I've been handling guns for over 30 years now and I still see guns all the time that I'm not familiar with. It can be very dangerous to pick up someones gun even if your familiar with that type of firearm. You never know what kind of modification someone might have done to their weapon. It really boils down to the "need" to take the gun away from someone, for me any way.
If I felt the need to take possession of it for safety reasons then it's totally proper. Terry v. Ohio is a little more complex than just "frisk searching" someone for weapons. Terry v. Ohio is really about two very separate and distinct phases; "the stop", and then "the frisk". Also, a "frisk" is not a full search! Both "the stop" and "the frisk" must be justified by a reasonable suspicious thought in the officers mind that a clear risk for him/her is likely. The stopping of a motorists who is only speeding and has a weapon which is in plain view, coupled with the fact he is being totally compliant doesn't totally satisfy it for me. However, as I was not on the scene it is impossible for me to know exactly what the officer felt at that very moment in time....
It has nothing to do with respect!!!!!...My son is a LEO!!.......I am the biggest PRO LEO out here but..........to Stateline's point there are other ways of approaching instead of just giving up and being disarmed. Do you really think that every single LEO out there is a firearms expert?? Far from it......there are more police officers, deputies and feds that only handle their weapon on qualification week and that's it. When you carry a gun on your side every day and know the minimum required and no more.....that to me is dangerous. Sorry, it is not a disrespect issue, it is a SAFETY issue for me. You all might disagree, and that's fine. I am not trying to be an ass about it nor would I with the officer.
PO's ain't above the law.You did well, I cant wait to get pulled over myself this time next year. At that point I hope to be a parole officer and I can just flash my badge and no more questions will be asked.